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PostSubject: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu May 28, 2009 5:55 am

Salam semua...
mintak tlg dari otai2x yg dah lama berxperience tunggang jentera itali ni
aku ada mas-alah tentang moto aku ni...bukan ape jd xconfident nk layan lap..

1) bahagian belakang moto (tayar) berbuai dikala ambik selekoh exit hgway gopeng, kene slowdown ke 70-80km/h
2) kalau jalan ada pasir / hari hujan pulak, lg teruk kene slow.
3) masa jln (xlaju lah) terlanggar bonggol moto melompat macam ringan je...

adakah sebb m/shock xelok? atau bearing rim dah haus?
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu May 28, 2009 9:17 am

Abs belakang dah out (lembut sgt) dan bearing sring arm/rim rosak.
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu May 28, 2009 10:05 am

idir wrote:
Salam semua...
mintak tlg dari otai2x yg dah lama berxperience tunggang jentera itali ni
aku ada mas-alah tentang moto aku ni...bukan ape jd xconfident nk layan lap..

1) bahagian belakang moto (tayar) berbuai dikala ambik selekoh exit hgway gopeng, kene slowdown ke 70-80km/h
2) kalau jalan ada pasir / hari hujan pulak, lg teruk kene slow.
3) masa jln (xlaju lah) terlanggar bonggol moto melompat macam ringan je...

adakah sebb m/shock xelok? atau bearing rim dah haus?

mono out
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu May 28, 2009 10:34 am

sama cam kes aku.. tuko mono pun still jd lg.. adakah bush arm dah out @ dah makan??
cornering jd satu benda yg menakutkan skrg ni..
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu May 28, 2009 2:03 pm

kitab cakap adjust skru absorber jgn lebih 25mm dpd permulaan thread. Kalau lebih maknenye mono dh x brape baik kot. MUto aku pon sama gak..kalau corner jalan x rata rase macam nak terbaring jek.. ngeri woo..

"Press down the vehicle tail. If the tail is slow to spring
back up when released, check rear suspension
adjustment; see 2.17.2.
If the problem persists after the adjustment, it means that the
shock absorber is depressurised. Charge the shock
absorber"

Boleh charge ke mono nih?
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu May 28, 2009 5:12 pm

mono dah out tu..

bleh je charge mono tu..tapi bukan macam cas bateri tu..hehe

mono ni bleh overhaul balik..tukar minyak then adjust balik der punyer spring tu..kan ade adjuster kat mono tu..yang gigi macam spoket tu..
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu May 28, 2009 11:36 pm

otai yg dah berpengalaman semua....
rsanyer ad ker mono jenis lain yg sesuai kita plugkan kat rs ni...


patut la hari tu member aku test bawak balik btu gjah nk layan koner rasa macam nk terbarig ngiring trus jer... berat dia menjangkau 115kg:guling:
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu May 28, 2009 11:37 pm

otai yg dah berpengalaman semua....
rsanyer ad ker mono jenis lain yg sesuai kita plugkan kat rs ni...


patut la hari tu member aku test bawak balik btu gjah nk layan koner rasa macam nk terbarig ngiring trus jer... berat dia menjangkau 115kg:guling:
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Fri May 29, 2009 1:55 am

idir wrote:
otai yg dah berpengalaman semua....
rsanyer ad ker mono jenis lain yg sesuai kita plugkan kat rs ni...


patut la hari tu member aku test bawak balik btu gjah nk layan koner rasa macam nk terbarig ngiring trus jer... berat dia menjangkau 115kg:guling:

pakai mono 125z boleh kot.. ko beli la yg mahal sikit.. brand gazi ker.. siam punya mono.. boleh jugak layan lap
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Fri May 29, 2009 10:00 am

aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Fri May 29, 2009 12:04 pm

check gak tyre pressure.. pastikan tak kurang dan tak lebih.. kurang kalu, goyang2.. lebih kalu, slide @ drift
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Fri May 29, 2009 11:28 pm

tayar tak nak ambik kira ker? kut kut lap dgn tayar nenas... mau terbabas gak
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Sat May 30, 2009 4:07 am

krolzizi wrote:
idir wrote:
otai yg dah berpengalaman semua....
rsanyer ad ker mono jenis lain yg sesuai kita plugkan kat rs ni...


patut la hari tu member aku test bawak balik btu gjah nk layan koner rasa macam nk terbarig ngiring trus jer... berat dia menjangkau 115kg:guling:

pakai mono 125z boleh kot.. ko beli la yg mahal sikit.. brand gazi ker.. siam punya mono.. boleh jugak layan lap

confem leh guna 125z punyer ke? ko guna yg mana satu mono 125z ker @ stendet AP asal?
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Sat May 30, 2009 4:10 am

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tayar tak nak ambik kira ker? kut kut lap dgn tayar nenas... mau terbabas gak

pressure angin tayar, aku pam ikut specs yg ada kat frame body. bunge lak elok lg dalam 80%.
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Sat May 30, 2009 4:14 am

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aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Sat May 30, 2009 12:00 pm

idir wrote:
krolzizi wrote:
idir wrote:
otai yg dah berpengalaman semua....
rsanyer ad ker mono jenis lain yg sesuai kita plugkan kat rs ni...


patut la hari tu member aku test bawak balik btu gjah nk layan koner rasa macam nk terbarig ngiring trus jer... berat dia menjangkau 115kg:guling:

pakai mono 125z boleh kot.. ko beli la yg mahal sikit.. brand gazi ker.. siam punya mono.. boleh jugak layan lap

confem leh guna 125z punyer ke? ko guna yg mana satu mono 125z ker @ stendet AP asal?

aku punya moto dah modified mono siam.. tapi tak tau le mono moto ape pasal beli2 hari tu mmg dah ade.. cornering boleh la suka2 takde buai2
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Tue Jun 02, 2009 11:35 am

idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?

ok jer masa mula2 dulu.. tp skrg jd balik la.. rasanya mono tu x seswai kot.. lps ni mau masuk mono RSV plk la..
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Tue Jun 02, 2009 4:58 pm

member aku ada sorang pakai 125z punya..
tu pun suggestion dr pomen(keong) pasal nak save budget..
tp life dia xthn lama la..
nak kena slalu tukar..
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:29 am

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idir wrote:
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aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?

ok jer masa mula2 dulu.. tp skrg jd balik la.. rasanya mono tu x seswai kot.. lps ni mau masuk mono RSV plk la..

bro berapa RAT / RIB pulak rege mono RSV tuh.... aku tanya kt nayan ori mono AP ni dlm RM3K.
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 11:22 am

idir wrote:
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idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?

ok jer masa mula2 dulu.. tp skrg jd balik la.. rasanya mono tu x seswai kot.. lps ni mau masuk mono RSV plk la..

bro berapa RAT / RIB pulak rege mono RSV tuh.... aku tanya kt nayan ori mono AP ni dlm RM3K.

adoiii.....mane bleh pakai mono rsv kt rs ni...
brader dh kene main la ...
harga mono standard rs mane ade sampai 3K...adoiiii...ini bengkel kaki GORENG la...
yg standard tk sampai 1K....tgk kt NKS sentul la...

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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:14 pm

selipar wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?

ok jer masa mula2 dulu.. tp skrg jd balik la.. rasanya mono tu x seswai kot.. lps ni mau masuk mono RSV plk la..

bro berapa RAT / RIB pulak rege mono RSV tuh.... aku tanya kt nayan ori mono AP ni dlm RM3K.

adoiii.....mane bleh pakai mono rsv kt rs ni...
brader dh kene main la ...
harga mono standard rs mane ade sampai 3K...adoiiii...ini bengkel kaki GORENG la...
yg standard tk sampai 1K....tgk kt NKS sentul la...

KEH KEH.. sapa suruh dia percaya..
3K?? blh beli dgn arm sekali klu harga tu, silap2 tayar sepasang pun lps lg..

err.. sentul ada jual mono ori ap ke? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 12:17 pm

TT9 wrote:
selipar wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?

ok jer masa mula2 dulu.. tp skrg jd balik la.. rasanya mono tu x seswai kot.. lps ni mau masuk mono RSV plk la..

bro berapa RAT / RIB pulak rege mono RSV tuh.... aku tanya kt nayan ori mono AP ni dlm RM3K.

adoiii.....mane bleh pakai mono rsv kt rs ni...
brader dh kene main la ...
harga mono standard rs mane ade sampai 3K...adoiiii...ini bengkel kaki GORENG la...
yg standard tk sampai 1K....tgk kt NKS sentul la...

KEH KEH.. sapa suruh dia percaya..
3K?? blh beli dgn arm sekali klu harga tu, silap2 tayar sepasang pun lps lg..

err.. sentul ada jual mono ori ap ke? scratch


ade.....blok baru ade, fork ade, tk tau ape lg...smua baru..tapi harga mahal la...
ini stok NKS beli kt Gintalli....Gintalli ni la yg bwk masuk smua spare part, moto AP dulu...skrg dh tutup....

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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:11 pm

selipar wrote:
TT9 wrote:
selipar wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?

ok jer masa mula2 dulu.. tp skrg jd balik la.. rasanya mono tu x seswai kot.. lps ni mau masuk mono RSV plk la..

bro berapa RAT / RIB pulak rege mono RSV tuh.... aku tanya kt nayan ori mono AP ni dlm RM3K.

adoiii.....mane bleh pakai mono rsv kt rs ni...
brader dh kene main la ...
harga mono standard rs mane ade sampai 3K...adoiiii...ini bengkel kaki GORENG la...
yg standard tk sampai 1K....tgk kt NKS sentul la...

KEH KEH.. sapa suruh dia percaya..
3K?? blh beli dgn arm sekali klu harga tu, silap2 tayar sepasang pun lps lg..

err.. sentul ada jual mono ori ap ke? scratch


ade.....blok baru ade, fork ade, tk tau ape lg...smua baru..tapi harga mahal la...
ini stok NKS beli kt Gintalli....Gintalli ni la yg bwk masuk smua spare part, moto AP dulu...skrg dh tutup....

tu la pasal aku tanya....nk test nengok dia betul ke dak? memang betul kedai nayan cekik darah rege. aku ganti gear speedometer jer dia cas RM200. Cable lak RM80
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:34 pm

idir wrote:
selipar wrote:
TT9 wrote:
selipar wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?

ok jer masa mula2 dulu.. tp skrg jd balik la.. rasanya mono tu x seswai kot.. lps ni mau masuk mono RSV plk la..

bro berapa RAT / RIB pulak rege mono RSV tuh.... aku tanya kt nayan ori mono AP ni dlm RM3K.

adoiii.....mane bleh pakai mono rsv kt rs ni...
brader dh kene main la ...
harga mono standard rs mane ade sampai 3K...adoiiii...ini bengkel kaki GORENG la...
yg standard tk sampai 1K....tgk kt NKS sentul la...

KEH KEH.. sapa suruh dia percaya..
3K?? blh beli dgn arm sekali klu harga tu, silap2 tayar sepasang pun lps lg..

err.. sentul ada jual mono ori ap ke? scratch


ade.....blok baru ade, fork ade, tk tau ape lg...smua baru..tapi harga mahal la...
ini stok NKS beli kt Gintalli....Gintalli ni la yg bwk masuk smua spare part, moto AP dulu...skrg dh tutup....

tu la pasal aku tanya....nk test nengok dia betul ke dak? memang betul kedai nayan cekik darah rege. aku ganti gear speedometer jer dia cas RM200. Cable lak RM80

dats normal price bro..
org2 yg dah lama pakai rs125 mmg xkan repair speedo sbb mmg dah tau brapa laju dia leh pi. jgn buang duit
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:02 pm

Kronologi monoshock Sachs 125 kt moto aku

1997 - 1998 : setahun aje dh Out...pastu beli baru kt Gentali rm890 - less 10% (kira sendiri)
1998 - 2000 : tukar lagi buat kali kedua kt rm890 - less 10% (kira sendiri)
2000 - 2003 : tukar yg mods. punya (testing) TZM shock brand KAYABA RM180
OK, tp prestasi tk superb mcm yg Ori..CARI balik yg ori punya pastu rebuilt
2004 - skrg : Pakai yg Ori punya tp dh rebuilt balik...

Ralat:
Mono ORI sachs ap125 lg best & superb utk cornering & reliable
mono2 mods. yg yg lain tk kira la...TZM ke,RG Sport punya ke...semua tkleh blah
bila korang punya mono ORI sachs dh rosak..klau tukar yg mods. punya...
tapak kaki mono ORI tu kena potong utk diletakkan kt mono mods. lak sbb mono mods. tapak
dia pendek.....JADI..barai la terus mono ORI korang bila dh potong tapak tu...

lebih bagus klau rebuilt balik mono ORI tu..mahal skit tkpe janji PUASHATI...
rebuilt mono ori termasuk
- tukar oilseal yg ikut cuaca kt m'sia ni...(oilseal yg tahan & kuat etc:Hidraulic oilseal)
- tukar minyak monoshock
- tukar gas dlm monoshock tu
- re-crome @ tukar terus btg crome tu..(klau dh calar & tkleh pakai)

rebuilt ni utk monoshock rs125/250...damper pun bole buat gak

yg penting....
bila pakai mono ORI...JGN la bwk awek yg berat mcm anak GAJAH lak....

P/S:
bush2 mono yg support mono tu pun kena la selalu check/servis @ tukar baru...barulah sedap melayan & monoshock ORI tk cepat rosak

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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:16 pm

berapa plak kos utk rebuilt mono tu prez?kat mane tempat rekomen utk buat? moto work services ke ?
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:17 pm

idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
idir wrote:
TT9 wrote:
aku tibai modified mono tzm jer.. hehe. mono ap br 1K++.. nono tz bru 180..

bro TT9, guna mono TZM ye? camnekondisi muto, stabil masa nk melayan?
camne bro wat modified mono tu? anta kedai ke wat sendiri?

ok jer masa mula2 dulu.. tp skrg jd balik la.. rasanya mono tu x seswai kot.. lps ni mau masuk mono RSV plk la..

bro berapa RAT / RIB pulak rege mono RSV tuh.... aku tanya kt nayan ori mono AP ni dlm RM3K.
RM3K dh bole beli
- monoshock BITUBO
- monoshock YSS
- monoshock OHLINS

semua monoshock diatas ada can mcm rs250 punya monoshock

P/S:
monoshock ORI aprilia 125 brand SACHS bwh rm1000 aje...

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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:29 pm

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berapa plak kos utk rebuilt mono tu prez?kat mane tempat rekomen utk buat? moto work services ke ?
rm350-450 (depends pada apa majors parts yg kena tukar)
klau besi crome tu calar & tk guna re-crome...tukar lain...

brape lama siap : 7 hari waktu bekerja (klau rajin)

P/S:
Janji mono tu mono ORI...mono2 local & mods. ni tk main laa....

ralat:
nk tau camne mono tu ori atau tk...
mono ORI spring dia dtg 3 kaler
-merah
-putih
-kuning

dan ada nut adjuster keras & lembut monoshock tu kt belah atas spring tu...

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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:48 pm

haa...apa lagi en. idir..daripada beli baru 3 ribu baik rebuilt je.tak abis 500.. tiptop ngetop waranti.. korner mesti cecah telinga pasni.
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PostSubject: Re: tayar belakang berbuai...   Thu Jun 04, 2009 6:43 pm

Club President wrote:
samsiah wrote:
berapa plak kos utk rebuilt mono tu prez?kat mane tempat rekomen utk buat? moto work services ke ?
rm350-450 (depends pada apa majors parts yg kena tukar)
klau besi crome tu calar & tk guna re-crome...tukar lain...

brape lama siap : 7 hari waktu bekerja (klau rajin)

P/S:
Janji mono tu mono ORI...mono2 local & mods. ni tk main laa....

ralat:
nk tau camne mono tu ori atau tk...
mono ORI spring dia dtg 3 kaler
-merah
-putih
-kuning

dan ada nut adjuster keras & lembut monoshock tu kt belah atas spring tu...

Apa perbezaan dia dgn yang stock spec? Perbezaan dari sudut damping dan ketahanan? Damping resistance dan ketahanan improve tak?
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