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PostSubject: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 10:59 am

Boleh sape2 tolong jelaskan apebenda rotax 122 or rotax 123 nih? yang aku tau mengikut ilmu yang x seberapa ni rodtax aku mati bulan 8 nih je..
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 1:19 pm

ada sangkut paut ke rotax dgn roadtax??
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 1:21 pm

gearbox oil 122 = 600ml
gearbox oil 123 = 1000ml
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 5:23 pm

PEMBERITAHUAN!!!!

KEPADA SMUA YG PAKAI MOTO APRILIA....
AKU NK BGTAU SKIT....SESAPE YG BELI BLOK DARI SINGAPORE...
TK KIRA LA BLOK 122 ROTAX KE, 123 ROTAX KE (GILARONI 1) SILA TGK DULU BLOK TU....MESTI ADE PERKATAAN 'APRILIA'...KLU TKD JGN BELI SBB BLOK TKD TULISAN APRILIA ADALAH BLOK 'GORKART' ROTAX....


HARAMMMM MAKLONGGGG......

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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 6:03 pm

selipar wrote:
PEMBERITAHUAN!!!!

KEPADA SMUA YG PAKAI MOTO APRILIA....
AKU NK BGTAU SKIT....SESAPE YG BELI BLOK DARI SINGAPORE...
TK KIRA LA BLOK 122 ROTAX KE, 123 ROTAX KE (GILARONI 1) SILA TGK DULU BLOK TU....MESTI ADE PERKATAAN 'APRILIA'...KLU TKD JGN BELI SBB BLOK TKD TULISAN APRILIA ADALAH BLOK 'GORKART' ROTAX....


HARAMMMM MAKLONGGGG......

mungkin dah ada org terpakai blok gokart kot...

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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 6:05 pm

gokart pon rotax122 kan?
so, ada masalah ka wey kalau pakai gokat punya?
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 6:18 pm

akuNabil wrote:
gokart pon rotax122 kan?
so, ada masalah ka wey kalau pakai gokat punya?

byk beza ....klu tgk dgn mata kasar mmg tkd beza..
bile dh ukur smua tk same..
tggi tk same, panjang tk same, lubang angin tkd, lubang skru pendek.....

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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 6:20 pm

akuNabil wrote:
gokart pon rotax122 kan?
Go-kart pakai rotax max 122
kt blok tu tkde tulis aprilia..cuma tulis ROTAX aje...
engine rotax semua ada tulis
-Gilardoni 1
-Gilardoni 2
-Gila-Gila Remaja

akuNabil wrote:
gokart pon rotax122 kan?
so, ada masalah ka wey kalau pakai gokat punya?
klau pakai blok tu...
ejos ko bunyi mcm ejos Go-Kart.....

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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 6:39 pm

elok la tu.. aku kalau boleh nak kasi ekjoz aku bunyi vespa
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 9:55 pm

horsepower rotax 123 lagik tinggi...
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Tue May 12, 2009 11:16 pm

akuNabil wrote:
elok la tu.. aku kalau boleh nak kasi ekjoz aku bunyi vespa

khas untuk hang... carbon fibre vespa. Very Happy




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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 9:27 am

perghhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 10:25 am

rs125 yg kite dok pakai dari model 96 - 08 ni semua rotax 122 ka? kalau blok tulis mikata?
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 10:31 am

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rs125 yg kite dok pakai dari model 96 - 08 ni semua rotax 122 ka? kalau blok tulis mikata?

Mikata? scratch
aku ngt moto ko made in Japan la...Mikata Kanagi Sisuka Hasyimura

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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 10:52 am

selipar wrote:
samsiah wrote:
rs125 yg kite dok pakai dari model 96 - 08 ni semua rotax 122 ka? kalau blok tulis mikata?

Mikata? scratch
aku ngt moto ko made in Japan la...Mikata Kanagi Sisuka Hasyimura

atau mitaka... Rolling Eyes

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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 11:10 am

hehe..mikata sasuka salah daa.. mitaka. macam mesin rumput pun ade..tanaka?
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 11:26 am

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hehe..mikata sasuka salah daa.. mitaka. macam mesin rumput pun ade..tanaka?


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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 12:09 pm

pehh..siap ade lirik tu..peminat nomor satu doremon rupenye cip wan kita nih..
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 1:27 pm

wakakakaka...siap hafal lagi dorameon tu...
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 10:08 pm

samsiah wrote:
rs125 yg kite dok pakai dari model 96 - 08 ni semua rotax 122 ka? kalau blok tulis mikata?
rasa2 aku la 96 @ 97 punya model rotax 122 kalo GP1 @ y2k rotax 123
blok rotax 123 bole masuk dekat enjen 122 tapi kene modified sikit lubang skru. harga 123 pun murah sikit dari blok 122.

kalo salah tolong betulkan..
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 10:12 pm

krolzizi wrote:
samsiah wrote:
rs125 yg kite dok pakai dari model 96 - 08 ni semua rotax 122 ka? kalau blok tulis mikata?
rasa2 aku la 96 @ 97 punya model rotax 122 kalo GP1 @ y2k rotax 123
blok rotax 123 bole masuk dekat enjen 122 tapi kene modified sikit lubang skru. harga 123 pun murah sikit dari blok 122.

kalo salah tolong betulkan..

xsalah aku, rotax123 ni zaman purba dulu je...
y2k n above semua 122
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Wed May 13, 2009 11:01 pm

oOoo.. terbalik ke.. hehe
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Thu May 14, 2009 10:32 am

scratch mane satu daa..
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Thu May 14, 2009 10:37 am

The Type 122 & 123 engines were single cylinder 125 cc engines as used in Aprilia AF1 / RS125 models. These were high revving, high power units using an exhaust valve system called Rave to increase peak power whilst retaining low end torque.
Engine Type 1125R - Buell Motorcycle Company
Engine Type V990
Engine Type 804
Engine Type 654
Engine Type 122 - 22 kW (Successor to the 123 engine)
Engine Type 122 - 11 kW (as 22 kW engine, though restricted by removal of RAVE Power valve).
Engine Type 123

da dapat.. tapi kalau la nak beli parts utk rs125 purba cam aku ni..kene consider rotax122 or 123 ke? ke balasah jek
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Thu May 14, 2009 12:09 pm

maknanya? 123 baru 122 lama?
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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Thu May 14, 2009 12:14 pm

krolzizi wrote:
maknanya? 123 baru 122 lama?

Engine Type 122 - 22 kW (Successor to the 123 engine)

maknanya selepas 123 baru ada 122...

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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Thu May 14, 2009 12:16 pm

DesertGoon wrote:
krolzizi wrote:
maknanya? 123 baru 122 lama?

Engine Type 122 - 22 kW (Successor to the 123 engine)

maknanya selepas 123 baru ada 122...

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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Sat May 16, 2009 1:58 pm

oOo.. paham dah..
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PostSubject: Perbezaan di antara Rotax 122 (baru) dan 123 (lama)   Sat Jan 01, 2011 3:04 pm

The RS125 Came with 2 types of engine from 1996 to 1998 Aprilia fitted the Rotax 123 type engine, and from 1998 to present day they fit the Rotax 122 type engine. Please note both the 122 and the 123 type engines are 124cc the 122 and 123 is reference to the type.
Now the confusion is around 1998 (the swop over year) you can not always rely on the date of registration as the bike may have been made in 1996 but not registered until 1998 and thus has the 123 type engine fitted.

So this is how to check what type you have.
All the engines have cast into the crankcases the type so this helps, but most engine get very dirty so it can be hard to find which one you have.

If you think you have the Rotax 122 1998-2009
Sitting on the bike best with the fuel tank up look on the left hand side of the engine next to where the cylinder is. On top of the crank case it should say “Rotax122” you may need to degrease the area to see this.



If you think you have the Rotax 123 1996 -1998
Look on the left hand side rear of the engine next to where the engine number is. It should say “Rotax123” you may need to degrease the area to see this.



What are the differences between the 2 engines?

Clutch basket
The 123 clutch basket is held in the normal way with a nut (M18x1.5) on the centre hub, where the 122 has no nut holding the basket in. The 123 has the same clutch plates as the 122 but the 123 has 6 friction plates and 5 steel plates where the 122 has 6 friction and 6 steel plates.

Transmission
Not to much to know, they are 2 totally different gear sets and selector forks you can not use any of the 123 in the 122 and vice versa.

Crankshaft
They both use the same con rod that is about it, the 122 has the primary gear held on with a C-clip and the 123 has a Nut holding the primary gear on. They both have different tapers on the ignition side so you can not swap the ignition systems around.

Balance shaft gears
They both use the same nylon gears; click here about timing them up

Cylinders And Pistons
They all use the same 54mm piston. The cylinders are different in a few ways.
Cylinders they use different stud spacing on the cylinder base see photos below.
There are 3 type of 123 cylinder all fit the 123 but some are better than others.

A: Really early 123 type cylinder has no auxiliary boost ports.



B: Same shape as above but with auxiliary boost ports



C: Now this is more like the 122 type casting but has the front studs the same width as the 123. Now you can mod this cylinder to fit onto the 122 by slotting the front holes to match the 122. The 123 cylinder uses 7mm studs and nuts to hold the cylinder head on.


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PostSubject: Re: Rotax 122 or Rotax 123?   Sat Jan 01, 2011 9:40 pm

good info bro DG

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